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| Spiderman being rebooted; new director, cast; No Spiderman 4, series reboot instead | |
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| Topic Started: Jan 12 2010, 11:59 PM (350 Views) | |
| Stinger | Jan 12 2010, 11:59 PM Post #1 |
To me, to be a conservative means to conserve the good parts of America and to conserve our Constitution.
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http://movies.ign.com/articles/106/1060055p1.html Damn, Sam Raimi, you've made us proud. As much as we're sorry to see you go, we respect the fact that you've stuck to your guns and told Sony to stick their webs where the sun don't shine. That's right, folks. Sam Raimi has left the Spider-Man franchise, which essentially means that Spider-Man 4 is no more and the wallcrawler is now getting a from-scratch reboot from the studio instead. Tobey Maguire is also done with the red and blue suit, and in fact Sony is saying (via Twitter) that the reboot will go back to high school with the character and be released in 2012. Deadline Hollywood's Nikki Finke had the story first, saying that "Mike Fleming and I have just confirmed that Sony Pictures decided today to reboot the Spider-Man franchise after franchise director Sam Raimi pulled out of Spider-Man 4 because he felt he couldn't make its summer release date and keep the film's creative integrity. This means that Raimi and the cast including star Tobey Maguire are out. There will be no Spider-Man 4. Instead, Mike Fleming is told, the studio will focus on a reboot script by Jamie Vanderbilt with a new director and a new cast. All this took place ... at [a] meeting on the lot today." DH goes on to say that Raimi insisted he couldn't make Sony's date or "go forward creatively. And, so, once he said 'That's it,' Sony Pictures co-chairman [Amy] Pascal and Columbia Pictures' Matt Tolmach decided they didn't want to replace him and instead chose to reboot the franchise." Points to Sony for making the smart choice here. We've got a call in to Sony right now and we'll update here as soon as we hear back from them! But, dang, this is a big one. UPDATED: Here is Sony's official statement on the reboot: "Peter Parker is going back to high school when the next Spider-Man hits theaters in the summer of 2012. Columbia Pictures and Marvel Studios announced today they are moving forward with a film based on a script by James Vanderbilt that focuses on a teenager dealing with both contemporary human problems and amazing super-human crises. The new chapter in the Spider-Man franchise produced by Columbia, Marvel Studios and Avi Arad and Laura Ziskin, will have a new cast and filmmaking team. Spider-Man 4 was to have been released in 2011, but had not yet gone into production. "A decade ago we set out on this journey with Sam Raimi and Tobey Maguire and together we made three Spider-Man films that set a new bar for the genre. When we began, no one ever imagined that we would make history at the box-office and now we have a rare opportunity to make history once again with this franchise. Peter Parker as an ordinary young adult grappling with extraordinary powers has always been the foundation that has made this character so timeless and compelling for generations of fans. We're very excited about the creative possibilities that come from returning to Peter's roots and we look forward to working once again with Marvel Studios, Avi Arad and Laura Ziskin on this new beginning," said Amy Pascal, co-chairman of Sony Pictures Entertainment. "Working on the Spider-Man movies was the experience of a lifetime for me. While we were looking forward to doing a fourth one together, the studio and Marvel have a unique opportunity to take the franchise in a new direction, and I know they will do a terrific job," said Sam Raimi. "We have had a once-in-a-lifetime collaboration and friendship with Sam and Tobey and they have given us their best for the better part of the last decade.This is a bittersweet moment for us because while it is hard to imagine Spider-Man in anyone else's hands, I know that this was a day that was inevitable," said Matt Tolmach, president of Columbia Pictures, who has served as the studio's chief production executive since the beginning of the franchise. "Now everything begins anew, and that's got us all tremendously excited about what comes next. Under the continuing supervision of Avi and Laura, we have a clear vision for the future of Spider-Man and can't wait to share this exciting new direction with audiences in 2012." "Spider-Man will always be an important franchise for Sony Pictures and a fresh start like this is a responsibility that we all take very seriously," said Michael Lynton, Chairman and CEO of Sony Pictures. "We have always believed that story comes first and story guides the direction of these films. As we move onto the next chapter, we will stay true to that principle and will do so with the highest respect for the source material and the fans and moviegoers who deserve nothing but the best when it comes to bringing these stories and characters to life on the big screen." The studio will have more news about Spider-Man in 2012 in the coming weeks as it prepares for production of the film. |
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| Q | Jan 13 2010, 10:40 AM Post #2 |
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Potentially good news all the way around as far as I'm concerned. The most obvious GREAT news here is: No Kirsten Dunst!  That's friggin' great. They'll save a ton of money. Tobey was good but technically too old for the role when he first took it. By the time 2011-12 would have rolled around...Tobey was going to start showing his age a little bit. And the salary he was going to command was just too damned big. Him and Sam not being on the picture just saved TONS of money right off the bat. Now more money will be there to spend on other aspects of the picture. There's lots of good talent out there. They might even surprise us. I don't have a problem with this simply because this happens with comics all the time and how many different Spiderman series does Marvel run even now? How many times over the decades have we seen quasi reboots or full reboots outright on that series or others? I've lost count. So it's no big deal to me, really. Spiderman 3 was an expensive, mixed train wreck of a movie that tried to cram two movies' worth of material into 1. It performed well but it was a mess in some parts so I'm not surprised at this at all. Just uneven as hell with some terrible writing at parts, particularly dialogue and characters. The Peter-MJ stuff was just hideous in that film. They also made at least one casting mistake with Topher Grace as Eddie Brock/Venom. It worked out better than it could have, but c'mon. I'll even say this: No Sam Raimi may even be a plus at this point. Let fresh minds take a crack at this from top to bottom. The writing was unbalanced at times even in the first two, especially dialogue and characters. 1 and 2 were excellent films that I have few complaints about and the writing wasn't nearly as unbalanced as part 3. Part 3 is a different matter and I'll save myself a bunch of typing and simply refer people to our original Spiderman 3 thread that you probably can track down with the forum search engine to see my thoughts on that. Long/short: The writing was very unbalanced in 3 and especially in 3 when it came to the dialogue and 7th grade characterizations between Mary Jane and Peter will not be missed by me. The whole reason MJ and Peter had their falling out was complete rubbish right out of the 6th grade. Just terrible stuff. So good riddance to that. Good riddance to the sappy, sacchrine, 6th grade soap operaish rubbish. I will not miss that. I like Sam Raimi all told but I don't give him a free pass. He made 2 awesome films and a third "pretty decent" film and that's enough. Time for some new blood. Raimi's best strength far and away is not writing. It's visual style. THAT is something I'll miss for sure. They'll make this movie for a fraction of the budget that part 3 cost and it'll probably kick ass and rake in big bucks. I say: Bring in Venom and Carnage and all will be well. 
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| Snowman | Jan 14 2010, 07:33 PM Post #3 |
Hey man your clock won't flush!!!
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After 3....I have lost interest. |
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| Q | Jan 14 2010, 08:03 PM Post #4 |
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3 probably made a lot of people's interest wane. |
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| Snowman | Jan 14 2010, 11:13 PM Post #5 |
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Hey man your clock won't flush!!!
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Well with Ironman taking off, the Hulk established, Another Dark Knight coming, and some DC stuff like Green Lantern coming, it will be tough. |
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| The Fallen Angel | Jan 15 2010, 11:02 PM Post #6 |
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I'm going to wait and see how this turns out, I would have preferred a reboot to a sequel anyway so at least that is a potentially a good thing. |
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| Q | Jan 16 2010, 09:57 AM Post #7 |
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Not if they do it right. Spiderman is an easy story to get into, and frankly, some of the best fun and freedom you can have with plots is early years Spidey as a teenager anyways. They'll make this movie for a fraction of the budget that the overbloated train wreck 3 cost and make a ton of money on it easily. I guarantee it. They'll have to try VERY hard to make it suck and make it a bomb and a loser. |
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| Jimmy Christian | Jan 17 2010, 12:50 AM Post #8 |
"God creates out of nothing. Wonderful you say. Yes, to be sure, but he does what is still more wonderful: he makes saints out of sinners." -Søren Kierkegaard
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*crosses fingers* Please don't hire Joel Schumacher. Please don't hire Joel Schumacher. Please don't hire Joel Schumacher. |
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| Q | Jan 17 2010, 11:54 AM Post #9 |
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"When two or more are gathered in My Name..."  Amen! 
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| Snowman | Jan 17 2010, 10:38 PM Post #10 |
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Hey man your clock won't flush!!!
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Well, here is the thing. I believe it is too close to the original series in time. They need to do what batman did, wait a little while then restart it. Pushing the reset button too soon could have a backlash effect. Those who do not keep up with this stuff could be confused, leaving them to think, well none of the original cast came back, so this must suck. |
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| Q | Jan 18 2010, 10:24 AM Post #11 |
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Nah, not really. Spiderman 3 was 2007. This will be 4-5 years past that date. It's fine. You can get away with more with comics anyways. |
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| Snowman | Jan 19 2010, 10:41 PM Post #12 |
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Hey man your clock won't flush!!!
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Didn't work with Punisher lol, he bowed out because he hated the direction it was going. |
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| Q | Jan 19 2010, 10:46 PM Post #13 |
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Yeah, but that thing was a disaster from the word go. We'll see what happens here. |
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| Snowman | Jan 19 2010, 10:54 PM Post #14 |
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Hey man your clock won't flush!!!
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Really? I liked the original remake. I thought it was a good decision. I will certainly give it a chance. |
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| Q | Jan 20 2010, 09:55 AM Post #15 |
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Oh, the original remake? http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0330793/ ^^ This? Good.  This: http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0450314/ ^^ That's the train wreck that Thomas Jane, the star from the 04 film, rightly walked away from because it is a complete disaster. I like this choice. Inspired, gutsy, fresh, but also promising. Press release:
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