Goldberg Returning?

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Goldberg Returning?
Topic Started: Mar 24 2010, 10:15 PM (288 Views)
Snowman	Mar 24 2010, 10:15 PM Post #1
Hey man your clock won't flush!!! Posts: 3,260 Group: Moderators Member #4 Joined: Aug 28, 2008	Former WWE and WCW Champion Bill Goldberg, who has not wrestled on the national wrestling scene since his infamous match with Brock Lesnar at WrestleMania 20 back in 2004, has announced on Twitter that he's in negotiations with World Wrestling Entertainment: "YES.. I am in negotiations with the WWE," Goldberg wrote. "Looks like 'ole Hogan and TNA missed the boat. Shame for the fans they didn't even try." Goldberg has stated repeatedly during interviews that he has no interest in getting back in the ring, but has had a change of heart and "the door is open again." "Truth is I never thought I'd even consider it...then came my son," Goldberg said. "No one said I'd wrestle but the door is open again. Also.... If I ever did step in the ring again, I have a new tag partner. He goes by the name of "Lights Out!!!! the one and only Shawn Merriman.....updating the old Goldberg/Kevin Greene duo."



Stinger	Mar 24 2010, 10:56 PM Post #2
To me, to be a conservative means to conserve the good parts of America and to conserve our Constitution. Posts: 5,039 Group: Administrator Member #1 Joined: Aug 26, 2008	If he returns to wrestle, then The last thing WWE needs is another old guy hogging up the top spots, especially one who thinks his shit doesn't stink and that he shouldn't be losing matches (WCW really ruined him in that respect).



Snowman	Mar 24 2010, 11:20 PM Post #3
Hey man your clock won't flush!!! Posts: 3,260 Group: Moderators Member #4 Joined: Aug 28, 2008	^^Hey it's captain sunshine. Ironic though you don't mind ric, hogan, nasty boys, and hall and nash hogging up air time, yet one guy, bill goldberg coming back would just shit all over your picnic.



Stinger	Mar 24 2010, 11:44 PM Post #4
To me, to be a conservative means to conserve the good parts of America and to conserve our Constitution. Posts: 5,039 Group: Administrator Member #1 Joined: Aug 26, 2008	Notice how I said "to wrestle". If he wants to guest host, commentate, manage or do something else on a regular basis, then great. Goldberg comes back to wrestle, and he's maineventing. He wouldn't come back for anything less. Ric Flair and Hulk Hogan wrestled one match, a tag match at that, on an important night for TNA (and got loads of free advertising because of it). Let me know when they start main-eventing PPV's and winning world titles. I don't defend the Nasty Boys, but I'd still rather see them wrestle a hardcore match for 4 minutes than see whatever lame guest host skit or Hornswoggle nonsense WWE airs to cater to the kids. Kevin Nash has been in TNA since 2004 and I have zero problem with his being there. He's held the TNA Championship exactly zero times and has been almost exclusively in the midcard and working with the young X-Division guys. Scott Hall has wrestled one match since returning, and low and behold the whole angle appears to be about getting Eric Young over as a serious babyface (which reading the spoilers for Monday's Impact, they succeeded in doing). Hall also won't be main-eventing. The similarity simply isn't there. IF Goldberg returns and he starts wrestling again, he's going to be in the main-event scene. I don't care to see the Goldberg/Cena, Goldberg/Batista, Goldberg/Triple H or Goldberg/Orton PPV main-events nor his squashing of guys like Swagger, DiBiase, Sheamus, etc. Which there's a 95% chance of happening, because that's just how Goldberg is.



Snowman	Mar 25 2010, 12:13 AM Post #5
Hey man your clock won't flush!!! Posts: 3,260 Group: Moderators Member #4 Joined: Aug 28, 2008	Sting you are splitting hairs, 50% of TNA has to do with Hogan, Flair, Nash, Hall, Pac, Jarrett, Nasty Boys, and every washed up reject the wrestling world has excreted out. Bill Goldberg coming back to wrestle for a while before he's inducted into the hall of fame doesn't bother me at all, if he can still go that makes him better than any washed up hack TNA has to throw at us. With Shawn Michaels about to take a leave if not a permanent vacation, and the Undertaker taking a leave, the scene needs one more seasoned player in it. I'd rather it be Sting or the Rock but those aren't happening. I have zero problem with this so long as he is not hindering the young guys. Goldberg has never, I repeat NEVER been known to pull power plays backstage, can I say with certainty that that won't happen, no, but NEVER have I heard of Goldberg saying "I'm not losing to this guy". Nash, Hall, Hogan, they have all be notorious for that stuff, I don't give a crap how many bs rookies Nash has put over in the past 2 years in TNA, it's amounted to nothing. Because none of them have amounted to anything. TNA is it's own wasteland. Nash did more damage to the wrestling world then he could ever repair, I have never heard Goldberg do that once. Goldberg took a damn cattle prod ending his streak, who's idea was that again? And did Goldberg say no? So I do not see your train of thought here. Goldberg gives you another big name, to run a side storyline, like Flair/HBK, like Trips/Sheamus, like Stone Cold/ Rock (WM 19), like Bret Hart/McMahon. To me there is no downside. Edited by Snowman, Mar 25 2010, 12:18 AM.



Dr. Chad Matthews	Mar 25 2010, 07:35 AM Post #6
Posts: 1,460 Group: Moderators Member #7 Joined: Aug 30, 2008	I'm seeing this in the way that Snow is, at this point... If Goldberg comes back to wrestle, it won't likely be for the title. He's old and hasn't worked a match in years. This will be for the purposes of connecting generation to generation with a match like Goldberg vs. John Cena. If he only came back for just that one match, I think it'd be a lot of fun. This isn't like 2003, when the WWE was desperately trying to get ratings back up where they once had been and had very few new main-event stars on the roster - thus, they felt the need to bring in an old star. I get a different vibe, this go round. If it happens, I'll see how it plays out with a very open mind. The WWE knows how to use older stars.



Jules	Mar 25 2010, 08:45 AM Post #7
Posts: 3,039 Group: Moderators Member #20 Joined: Nov 3, 2008	I think there's a few money programs you can still do with a healthy Goldberg. Batista/Goldberg and Undertaker/Goldberg especially could be huge if booked right. No need to have him anywhere near the world title scene, besides maybe one shot or something down the line if he stays over with the fans. Bottom line, if they bring him in and book him like a proper monster for a few weeks with some old school squash matches (not against Sheamus or other people WWE have plans to elevate obviously) then you can capitalize on his name value, make some money, and on the way out use him to elevate some new guys and it's a win-win across the board. I have no problems with this at this juncture, if it turns out the way Stinger is hinting, then I will change my stance at that time. For the record, on the TNA front, I think they have achieved a tenuous balance on how they use their 'old timers'. One factor they could improve upon is the amount of TV/mic/segment time they get as opposed to the time younger guys get, but as far as placing them in key wrestling positions at the peril to the up and coming wrestlers, they've yet to really commit massive blunder in that regard recently. Not counting the Nasty Boys who need to be gone before Knobbs dies of a heart attack on live TV... and Scott Hall who is just sad to see at this point but who will most likely be gone whenever the current big struggle for power storyline is over with..



Q	Mar 25 2010, 08:49 AM Post #8
Posts: 6,233 Group: Administrator Member #2 Joined: Aug 26, 2008	I'm with Snow and Chad all the way. Stinger: I don't know where you get this idea that Goldberg was this political machine in WCW. The Streak wasn't even his idea. He did what he was told. Frankly, you're mischaracterizing him with things that actually apply to Hogan, Nash, Hall (when they're all together), Nastys, Jarret, and some of the other Hogan sycophants. I bet if Goldberg were coming to TNA instead you'd be marking all over the place. Be honest about it. Stinger Notice how I said "to wrestle". If he wants to guest host, commentate, manage or do something else on a regular basis, then great. Word for word what I've said about Hogan, Flair, and some of these other guys. Quote: Goldberg comes back to wrestle, and he's main eventing. He wouldn't come back for anything less. Remains to be seen. Frankly I hope not unless he really just shocks and awes everyone. Quote: Ric Flair and Hulk Hogan wrestled one match, a tag match at that, on an important night for TNA (and got loads of free advertising because of it). Despite you swearing to us it wasn't going to happen. Quote: Let me know when they start main-eventing PPV's and winning world titles. Don't worry, it's just a matter of time and I think most of us know it. I'll make a gentleman's bet on it. Quote: I don't defend the Nasty Boys, but I'd still rather see them wrestle a hardcore match for 4 minutes than see whatever lame guest host skit or Hornswoggle nonsense WWE airs to cater to the kids. I'd rather have none of the above. Except these guys and Hall and Xpac and some others were all losers that you, for one, in full defending of TNA righteous fury swore to us were "only there short term for a plot line" or some such. Of course they're still there. As expected. They're never going away as long as Hogan is there and I'm expecting more Hogan sycophants to show up before long. Quote: Kevin Nash has been in TNA since 2004 and I have zero problem with his being there. He's held the TNA Championship exactly zero times and has been almost exclusively in the midcard and working with the young X-Division guys. Yup, I have no problems with Nash so far. My concern elevates considerably when he's back together with his buddies Hogan, Hall, Xpac and they're all together with EB behind the scenes just like old times. EB by himself I'm fine with. EB with Heyman I'd be past thrilled with. EB or any/all of these guys back together is cause for concern. Quote: Scott Hall has wrestled one match since returning, and low and behold the whole angle appears to be about getting Eric Young over as a serious babyface (which reading the spoilers for Monday's Impact, they succeeded in doing). Hall also won't be main-eventing. Good for Young. Past this, though: You've been making predictions on TNA's behalf and you're far below 100 percent on accuracy. Quote: IF Goldberg returns and he starts wrestling again, he's going to be in the main-event scene. I don't care to see the Goldberg/Cena, Goldberg/Batista, Goldberg/Triple H or Goldberg/Orton PPV main-events nor his squashing of guys like Swagger, DiBiase, Sheamus, etc. Agreed 100 percent unless again, Goldberg REALLY shocks and awes. If he shocks and awes then use him and go with it. I wouldn't mind seeing all of those matches you named IF...and it's a big IF...he comes out and he's just flat out awesome. If he isn't, I don't want to see it. And I certainly don't want to see any squashes of any people like those you named. Quote: Which there's a 95% chance of happening, because that's just how Goldberg is. No, that's the way Hogan and his group of sycophants are. And they're all back together holding hands at TNA. There's no documentation out there and Goldberg does not have a reputation or a track record where you could make this accusation stick. If you can prove otherwise, I'd like to see it.



Snowman	Mar 25 2010, 09:43 AM Post #9
Hey man your clock won't flush!!! Posts: 3,260 Group: Moderators Member #4 Joined: Aug 28, 2008	Wrestleview.com Quote: As noted last night, Bill Goldberg confirmed ongoing negotiations with WWE. The company has been excited by the successful return of Bret Hart to build to a Wrestlemania match, and it wouldn't surprise anyone if they brought Goldberg back to work a short-term angle. As we reported a few weeks ago, his name has already surfaced for next year's WWE hall of fame ceremonies in Atlanta. There is also talk internally about Goldberg hosting a future episode of Raw.



Jules	Mar 25 2010, 09:46 AM Post #10
Posts: 3,039 Group: Moderators Member #20 Joined: Nov 3, 2008	I like what I'm reading with that. Short term angles are the way to go IMO. Goldberg as a manager or commentator (while I'd give it a chance) is not something I ever need to see. This is the way to use the old guys. Bring them in for short bursts. Book a dream match/angle. Then send them on their merry little way before the nostalgia wears off and they become a detriment to the overall product.



Q	Mar 25 2010, 10:12 AM Post #11
Posts: 6,233 Group: Administrator Member #2 Joined: Aug 26, 2008	Jules Mar 25 2010, 09:46 AM I like what I'm reading with that. Short term angles are the way to go IMO. Goldberg as a manager or commentator (while I'd give it a chance) is not something I ever need to see. This is the way to use the old guys. Bring them in for short bursts. Book a dream match/angle. Then send them on their merry little way before the nostalgia wears off and they become a detriment to the overall product. Yup. Done like that it'll be just fine.



Stinger	Mar 25 2010, 08:14 PM Post #12
To me, to be a conservative means to conserve the good parts of America and to conserve our Constitution. Posts: 5,039 Group: Administrator Member #1 Joined: Aug 26, 2008	If that's the case with him, short term before going into the Hall of Fame, then fine. I may respond to the rest of that tomorrow Q/Snow, but no, I would not being marking out if Goldberg were going to TNA. For the record I prefer WWE over TNA (I just don't prefer RAW over Impact at this time; if head to head then I would watch NXT, Superstars and Smackdown over Impact). And I have never been a big Goldberg fan; not when he was in his prime and dominating, and most certainly not now. I never said he was a political machine in WCW, never even implied it. I simply stated he wouldn't return to wrestling as a wrestler for anything less than a main-event run (short term deal akin to Bret Hart then sure, long term no chance). Why would he? He doesn't need the money and certainly wouldn't have any desire to return to toil around in the midcard. Again, all that was based on IF he returned to wrestling full time. If its a short term thing before he goes into the Hall, then it won't be a problem.



Q	Mar 25 2010, 08:51 PM Post #13
Posts: 6,233 Group: Administrator Member #2 Joined: Aug 26, 2008	Stinger Mar 25 2010, 08:14 PM If that's the case with him, short term before going into the Hall of Fame, then fine. I may respond to the rest of that tomorrow Q/Snow, but no, I would not being marking out if Goldberg were going to TNA. For the record I prefer WWE over TNA (I just don't prefer RAW over Impact at this time; if head to head then I would watch NXT, Superstars and Smackdown over Impact). And I have never been a big Goldberg fan; not when he was in his prime and dominating, and most certainly not now. I never said he was a political machine in WCW, never even implied it. I simply stated he wouldn't return to wrestling as a wrestler for anything less than a main-event run (short term deal akin to Bret Hart then sure, long term no chance). Why would he? He doesn't need the money and certainly wouldn't have any desire to return to toil around in the midcard. Again, all that was based on IF he returned to wrestling full time. If its a short term thing before he goes into the Hall, then it won't be a problem. Good enough.



Snowman	Mar 26 2010, 12:12 AM Post #14
Hey man your clock won't flush!!! Posts: 3,260 Group: Moderators Member #4 Joined: Aug 28, 2008	Quote: After confirming negotiations with the World Wrestling Entertainment, Bill Goldberg has given us more insight as to what his internal goals are. "Is it out of the question for me to have one more match?" Goldberg wrote via Twitter. "Answer is no...my son has never seen me wrestle and I'd love to see his reaction." Goldberg originally made it known that he had been in negotiations with WWE Wednesday via his Twitter page. Goldberg commented on negotiations, and TNA’s lack of interest in bringing him in. Wednesday, Goldberg also mentioned his son as being the main reason he is open to a contract with the WWE. JR also commented on the negotiations giving a little more detail as to what the negotiations could possibly mean. JR, who at one point, handled Talent Relations, new contracts, extending contracts, ect has a great deal of knowledge of what options Goldberg has in terms of a contract. If a deal is reached, the deal could possibly be for gaming rights, merchandise and possibly an in-ring return. As of press time, no deal has been made but Goldberg has made it very clear he is very interested in a deal, but what that deal brings, remains to be seen.



Snowman	Jul 22 2010, 03:22 PM Post #15
Hey man your clock won't flush!!! Posts: 3,260 Group: Moderators Member #4 Joined: Aug 28, 2008	In an interview with the San Diego Union-Tribune, former wrestling champion Bill Goldberg said he wants one final wrestling match because he wants his family to see him wrestle live. “If the money was right, I’d go out there and do it in two seconds,” Goldberg said. “I’d have to be totally prepared for it, because I wouldn’t want to tarnish my image, but I’d like to be in the ring one more time so that my wife and my son can see me wrestle live.” He also discussed his love/hate relationship with the wrestling industry in the interview. “I don’t ever want to say that I miss anything about the wrestling business,” Goldberg said. “I miss the ability to put a smile on a kid’s face, more than one at a time. That was a true charge for me.”



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